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Thread: BEHRINGER TECH TALK 04: X32 Scene Management

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    BEHRINGER TECH TALK 04: X32 Scene Management

    Hi Everyone,

    The X32 features a comprehensive Scene Management system that allows all parameters and settings to be instantly recalled at the touch of a button. The 100 scenes on the X32 can be imported and exported via USB Stick and parameters can be eliminated from Recall using the SAFE options. In this Tech Talk we will go into detail about how to use the SCENES menu on the X32.

    Scenes vs. Shows: Know The Difference
    Scene - A scene is a single file containing a snapshot of the settings of the X32. When saving a scene, all parameters are ALWAYS saved. Upon recall, you have the options to "Safe", or prevent, certain parts of the scene from being recalled.

    Shows - A Show File contains the 100 scenes that fill the slots of the X32's scene memory. Only a single show file can be loaded on the X32 at a time.
    *NOTE: When recalling a SHOW from USB, ALL scene files on the X32 would be overwritten with the scene files from that show.

    Import / Export from USB:
    The X32 allows you to import and export both individual scenes and entire shows. Individual scenes can be saved to USB directly from the SCENES menu. To export a whole show, or to import a scene or show, press UTILITY while viewing the SCENES menu. You can also Copy, Paste, and Delete Scenes while viewing this UTILITY menu.

    Using XControl for Enhanced Scene Management:
    Aside from easy setup and greater control of your mix, XControl software expands the scene capabilities of the X32.
    There are 2 main benefits to using XControl for Scene Management:
    1. 100 More Scenes: When using XControl as an online editor with the console, you have access to a second page of 100 scenes. This means that while using XControl you have 100 internal scenes labeled “Console” PLUS the 100 scenes labeled “XControl” bringing the total scenes available using XControl to 200.
    2. XControl has the ability to insert a scene between two scenes. This allows you to go back and create a space for a new scene at the beginning of the show without having to move all the following scenes down manually. This is particularly useful for theatre use with the X32.

    Scene Safes:
    As stated earlier, Scene Safes will EXCLUDE that parameter from being recalled. For example, when walking into a new venue that has an X32, you could bring in your USB stick and recall your scene but "safe" the routing so that you would not overwrite that venue's routing configuration.
    This means that if you want to recall ALL parameters, all of these boxes need to be unchecked (not orange).

    Descriptions of Safe Parameters:
    "Home" Screen Scene Safes: The safes on this menu are on a scene-by-scene basis. This means that you need to check the desired safe on each scene you plan to recall individually.

    Routing I/O - All settings in the ROUTING menu
    Output Patch - Only the output pages of the ROUTING menu
    Preamp (HA) - Mic Gain and Phantom Power for inputs
    Configuration - Any recallable settings in the SETUP menu such as link preferences, panning mode, and bus pre-configuration
    Chan Process - Channel Strip processing for INPUT channels (starting with phase flip)
    Mix Buses - Mix Bus "Channel Strip" processing
    Effects - All settings within the EFFECTS page
    Talkback - All settings within the Talkback Settings

    The settings on the following pages are global and will apply no matter which scene is recalled:

    "Param Safe" Screen Scene Safes: Allows you to globally safe certain parameters across all input channels and mix buses. Global console safes such as routing and configuration are also found here. For example, if you choose Preamp (HA), then all mic gains would be safe from recall across all input channels.

    "Chan Safe" Screen Scene Safes: Safes all parameters for a specific Channel, AUX / FX Return, Mix Bus, Matrix, DCA Group. This screen also allows you to individually safe any FX slot. One use for this could be the MC's mic at an event featuring multiple acts. You could safe his channel so that as you move through different scenes his mic would be unaffected, even if the scenes you are recalling have different settings for this input channel.

    A Note About Presets vs. Scenes:
    In addition to Scenes, the X32 also features preset libraries. These "presets" are completely independent of scenes and allow you to save your favorite channel strip, routing, and FX settings. These are really handy because they can be loaded at any time and in any scene. This would allow you to save your favorite vocal EQ or routing setups without having to use a scene slot.


    Things to remember when using Scene Management:
    1. If you want to recall all settings, make sure all safe options are UNCHECKED.
    2. The Safes on the Home Screen are set individually, scene by scene. For global safes, use the “Param Safe” and “Chan Safe” pages.

    The X32 as you can see has great flexibility in Scene Management. We hope this Tech Talk will help you better understand and take advantage of these features. As usual, feel free to post your questions here. We will be back next week with another edition of Tech Talk.

    Best,
    John DiNicola
    Senior Specialist, Product Support
    MUSIC Group
    BEHRINGER

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    Will be great improve a "show load" protection by password, from usb

    It is possible to load a particular scene from a Show saved in a usb stick?

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    A great benefit would be to save/load the global scene safe configuration to/from usb.
    Maybe this can also be part of the show management so that it can be loaded with the show.

    I also like to see a per-scene option to allow me to recall only the main levels and mute states of the channels.
    Think about this scenario. The first scene should load the initial state of the show, which means everything.
    During the show only the main levels and mute states should be loaded to allow me to do some tweaks on the channel processing which should not be overwritten when the next scene is loaded.
    Last edited by Klaus Mock; 03-29-2013 at 08:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Berries View Post
    Will be great improve a "show load" protection by password, from usb

    It is possible to load a particular Scene from a Show saved in a usb stick?
    Hi Michael,
    Yes, it is possible to load a particular scene from a "show" saved to USB. When exporting a "show", individual "scene" files are also exported in addition to the "show" file. When viewing the SCENES menu, press UTILITY and you will see the option to import either a Show or Scene.

    Best,
    John DiNicola
    Senior Specialist, Product Support
    MUSIC Group
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    Quote Originally Posted by John DiNicola View Post
    Hi Michael,
    Yes, it is possible to load a particular scene from a "show" saved to USB. When exporting a "show", individual "scene" files are also exported in addition to the "show" file. When viewing the SCENES menu, press UTILITY and you will see the option to import either a Show or Scene.

    Best,
    John DiNicola
    Senior Specialist, Product Support
    MUSIC Group
    BEHRINGER
    It seems to me that there is a small problem with this, if you want to import just one scene from a particular show. The scenes within a show are titled "my show.001" etc., so you don't know what scene it actually is. Is there a way to see the actual name of the scene?

    Mick Berg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Berg View Post
    It seems to me that there is a small problem with this, if you want to import just one scene from a particular show. The scenes within a show are titled "my show.001" etc., so you don't know what scene it actually is. Is there a way to see the actual name of the scene?

    Mick Berg.
    Hi Mick,
    You are correct that the numbers at the end of the file are the only cue you have when loading individual scenes from an exported show. These numbers will correspond to the scene slot that the scene was originally saved in, (.001 - .100). Once you import a scene back onto an empty scene slot on the X32 (or in XControl), the name of the scene will be displayed in that slot. This at least gives you the chance to see the title before actually accidently pressing GO and loading on the wrong scene.

    Best,
    John DiNicola
    Senior Specialist, Product Support
    MUSIC Group
    BEHRINGER

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    Any chance of getting a fade time associated with a scene like in the DDX3216, so a recall can slowly adjust faders etc. ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Tarolli View Post
    Any chance of getting a fade time associated with a scene like in the DDX3216, so a recall can slowly adjust faders etc. ???
    Hi Gary,
    Currently we have not implemented this feature on the X32. As always, we will forward your request to the developers.
    Thanks for your feedback!

    Best,
    John DiNicola
    Senior Specialist, Product Support
    MUSIC Group
    BEHRINGER

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    One word about loading single scene files from disk.
    Yesterday I tried to load some files with XControl on Windows. I discovered that you cannot select files when the file extension end with the digit 0 or 1. e.g it is not possible to load scenefile.010 or scenefile.011. This happend with XControl Version 1.01.
    I think that the FileOpenDialog's Filtermask is not correct. Maybe someone can forward this to the developers.

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    Hi John,

    Thanks for the above info that helps. I do have a couple questions/scenarios that I would like your clarification on.

    1. Global Safes - If I save my current scene with inputs 1-5 "Saved" in the channel safe tab and then import a new show, does that SAFE carry over or does it change to whatever the new show file has set?

    2. Since the mixer doesn't save a "default" configuration. typically what I do is for each show, my first scene I have as the "default" scene to reset the console to whatever configuration is needed for that show. So I generally don't include any safes in that scene. Then for each scene after that I am checking the items I want protected. Am I doing this correct?

    3. Changes made to "saved" settings. For example if I am on scene 3 and it has channel gain saved. Let's say I have to make a change to the gain for whatever reason. Since that channel is "Saved" globally, what happens when I move to the next scene? Does it reset the gain to its original value or leave it where it is at?

    4. If I have plate reverb in FX slot 1 for scene one and I want scene three to have stereo delay, I need to make sure "Effects" is NOT checked on scene three? Likewise, even if I keep the same FX processor/slot, but change the parameters, does a scene change remember those parameter changes?

    For reference I have an X32 in a Church setting and we have all volunteer operators. We have rehearsal on Thursday and would like to save scenes for each song. Then Sunday morning the operator will load the show file for that day, containing those scenes. I want to make sure that all system configurations are protected and the only changes made on scene load are individual fader positions, mutes, and fx settings. Everything else should stay the same.

    Just trying to understand the best way to set the "safes".

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