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    fko56
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    Subgroup and Reverb etc.

    Hello!
    Im using subgroups on my X32 and cannot find any way to send the signal to my configured fx1-reverb.
    The only way I have found is to make a "sidechannel-fx" used as insert. But on this way I have to handle a general reverb and one for each subgroup.
    The other way I have found is to send the signal from every "group-member" to my fx1. But then I have to handle reverb for each channel routed to this group.

    For example: 4 backvox-mikes routed in a subgroup shall use the same fx1-reverb as I configured for other channels.

    If anybody knows the way - please post it!

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by fko56 View Post
    Hello!
    Im using subgroups on my X32 and cannot find any way to send the signal to my configured fx1-reverb.
    The only way I have found is to make a "sidechannel-fx" used as insert. But on this way I have to handle a general reverb and one for each subgroup.
    The other way I have found is to send the signal from every "group-member" to my fx1. But then I have to handle reverb for each channel routed to this group.

    For example: 4 backvox-mikes routed in a subgroup shall use the same fx1-reverb as I configured for other channels.

    If anybody knows the way - please post it!

    Thanks
    Hi,
    The X32 cannot directly send a bus to another bus, which is what you are trying to do in this case. If you have any of your 32 channels or 8 aux channels open, there is a workaround that would allow you to do this. This involves routing your subgroup back to input channels as described below:

    1. Assuming you are using stereo sub-groups, you would begin by choosing a pair of input or aux channels. Select the first channel of the pair and navigate to the "config" page of the channel strip by pressing the VIEW button near the Low Cut button.

    2. Press the 1st rotary encoder beneath the screen to link the pair of channels. Now, use the 3rd encoder to select "Bus X" as the "Source" (X being whichever mix bus is the left side of your subgroup. Select the second channel and choose "Bus Y" for the "Source" (Y being the mix bus that has the right side of your subgroup).

    3. Now that you returned your subgroup to input channels, you will want to make sure you select the buses that your subgroups are on and remove them from the Stereo Main LR Mix (you don't want to feed the main mix the same signal from the bus and the channel section).

    4. Since your sub-grouped audio is now returning to an input channel, you can send it to your FX1 just as you would any other channel, using the Bus Sends.

    Hope this helps!

    Best,
    John DiNicola
    Senior Specialist, Product Support
    MUSIC Group
    BEHRINGER

  3. #3
    fko56
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    Thanks for Your advice! It works!

    Is the "bus to bus-routing" in subgroups generally not designed or may it come in a future firmware-release?

    greets from austria!

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    humhead
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    Bus to Bus is not a normal config, you won't see this on any desk. You need to set up a bus for the reverb send, and send each individual channel to it. That is SOP for effects.

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    fko56
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    Hi!
    Thats what I use normaly.
    But I have not found any way to use ONE reverb for ALL channels in the subgroup.
    I would like to use all BackVox with one and the same reverb. If I had a send-posibility in the subgroup to my fx-reverb-channel it will be much more handy than send channel by channel to reverb (9xBackVx for example).
    So I dont need a bus-to-bus routing in conventional way. I need sends on a subgroup (matrix sends are able to use) or any other kind of solution to use - for example - differnt idensities of reverb for BackVx-Group 1, BackVx-Group 2, BackVx-Group 3 etc.
    In my case I had to handle 12 Mics in 3 Subgroups. Every group has different percentage of the same reverb.
    So I can do it with the workaround described by John DeNicola. Or config an extra reverb and use the reverb-mix-button.
    Last edited by fko56; 12-02-2012 at 01:38 AM.

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    humhead
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    You ware WAY overcomplicating this. Use a post fader bus to the reverb you want, go to sends on faders mode, put all faders you want to go to the reverb at the desired level, turn up the return.

    Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humhead View Post
    You ware WAY overcomplicating this. Use a post fader bus to the reverb you want, go to sends on faders mode, put all faders you want to go to the reverb at the desired level, turn up the return.

    Done.
    That's what he wrote:

    The other way I have found is to send the signal from every "group-member" to my fx1. But then I have to handle reverb for each channel routed to this group.

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