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    mrponciano
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    Problems to connect a Vamp-2 with a computer using a USB/MIDI interface.

    Hello,

    I have purchased a V-amp 2 and I am trying to connect it with a computer but with no sucess.

    I am using a pretty cheap cable: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIDI-USB-Cab...item3f0f5af118

    When I connect it, the driver install 100% ok.

    When I try to run the software, it says that the MIDI Thru is active so it is not possible to comunicate.

    So I press the 2 arrow buttons, press A button and the Midi thru is not active.

    I have tried two different computers to make the tests:
    a. Windows 8 using the Behringer Software.
    b. Mountain Lion with iVamp

    None of the computers were able to comunicate.

    Please help me


    Thanks

  2. #2

    V-amp MIDI

    Quote Originally Posted by mrponciano View Post
    Hello,

    I have purchased a V-amp 2 and I am trying to connect it with a computer but with no sucess.

    I am using a pretty cheap cable: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIDI-USB-Cab...item3f0f5af118

    When I connect it, the driver install 100% ok.

    When I try to run the software, it says that the MIDI Thru is active so it is not possible to comunicate.

    So I press the 2 arrow buttons, press A button and the Midi thru is not active.

    I have tried two different computers to make the tests:
    a. Windows 8 using the Behringer Software.
    b. Mountain Lion with iVamp

    None of the computers were able to comunicate.

    Please help me


    Thanks
    Hello,

    Are you using the V-amp editor software or are you trying to record? Keep in mind that the MIDI on the V-amp is used with a MIDI foot controller, or to store and load presets from the computer. You can't record the audio through MIDI.


    You're going to need some kind of MIDI interface with one MIDI INPUT and one MIDI OUTPUT on it for your computer. You can get a generic one from the local computer store - it doesn't have to be fancy or expensive. If you think you'll end up performing music with MIDI in the future (you won't when using the V-amp... only file transfers), I recommend checking out an interface of a bit higher quality from MIDIman, Edirol, or Aardvark (there are hundreds of others). You can get these devices from Musician's Friend, Guitar Center, Zzounds, etc.

    You will also need to download the Windows editor software from the website (it's free). You can go to this link to download the software:
    http://www.behringer.com/EN/Support/...d-Drivers.aspx

    Look to the right-hand side, scroll down to SOFTWARE, and click on the link for "V-amp Editor Software". Download BOTH the software and the help file (this help file is actually really useful). Install the software and connect a MIDI cable from the MIDI OUT of your V-amp to the MIDI IN on the computer interface. Connect a MIDI cable from the MIDI OUT of the computer interface to the MIDI IN on the V-amp.


    V-AMP preset transfer from computer

    There are a few requirements before you can get started with this:
    -Download the free V-AMP DESIGN editor software from our website http://www.behringer.com/EN/Support/...Downloads.aspx

    -Download a TONE LIBRARY file for your V-AMP product (this is a .syx file) http://www.behringer.com/EN/Support/...e-Library.aspx

    -Connect the V-AMP product to and from your computer's MIDI interface in the following manner:

    V-AMP MIDI OUT --> PC MIDI INTERFACE IN
    V-AMP MIDI IN --> PC MIDI INTERFACE OUT

    -Set your V-AMP product to receive on MIDI Channel 1 (just for this example... you can change this later at your preference) in the following manner:

    Press the < and > buttons to go into "edit mode"
    Press the "A" key (MIDI)
    Press the < or > key until the number "1" is displayed in the window
    Press the "Tuner" key (exit)
    You are now set up to receive on MIDI channel 1

    If you run into problems at this point, there are some troubleshooting tips at the bottom of this email!!

    Now that you're set up, you can proceed with loading your preset in the following manner:

    -Double click the icon for the V-AMP DESIGN software to start the application
    -The unit will default to either the "configuration" window, or the presets window (spreadsheet style, with preset names listed in bank numbers and letters)
    -In the "configuration window", ensure that your V-AMP product was detected (you should see an icon for your product in the left-hand window). If the configuration window
    Is not displayed (e.g. the presets window is displayed instead), you can access the configuration window by clicking on WINDOWS at the top of the toolbar and then
    Clicking CONFIGURATION.
    -After you've highlighted your product icon on the left, click OK. The preset window should now be displayed, and your preset names should be automatically detected
    And displayed (if connected correctly).

    To load a TONE LIBRARY file into your V-AMP product:
    -Click on a preset in the spreadsheet style presets window you wish to replace with your new TONE LIBRARY file (.syx file you downloaded)
    -Now, click on FILE
    -Click on IMPORT SYSEX (.syx). A pop-up menu should appear.
    -Browse and select the TONE LIBRARY file you wish to import (e.g. Nu Metal)
    -Click on OPEN. A pop-up menu will appear and you will be prompted: "replace existing preset?"
    -Click YES

    Your TONE LIBRARY (.syx) preset file is now loaded into your V-AMP and the editor display (already saved).

    Tips:
    If MIDI data does not seem to be transmitting or receiving, one possibility may be that the MIDI output has somehow inadvertently been changed from "MIDI OUT" to a "MIDI THRU". First I'll explain 'em, then I'll tell you why this might be the case:
    MIDI OUT- transmits the MIDI data generated by the V-AMP2 to the receiving device (in your case, the computer)
    MIDI THRU- passes the MIDI data at the input of the device "through" to the output. In this mode, the V-AMP does NOT
    TRANSMIT IT'S OWN MIDI DATA.
    So, how do we check it? Go into "edit mode" by pressing the two arrow keys simultaneously. Then press the "A" key (also labeled "MIDI") to access the MIDI parameters. Press the "TAP" key until it is unlit (this puts the unit in MIDI OUT mode). If the TAP key LED is lit, then it is in MIDI THRU mode (see manual, page 6- block number 8 for future reference).
    Also, make sure you are connected with MIDI cables going both ways as described above!


    Transferring .vlf files (library files) using the V-Amp Editor does appear to not be covered in the documentation with the application. The procedure for doing this is as follows:

    -Connect the V-AMP product to and from your computer's MIDI interface in the following manner:

    V-AMP MIDI OUT --> PC MIDI INTERFACE IN
    V-AMP MIDI IN --> PC MIDI INTERFACE OUT

    -Set your V-AMP product to receive on MIDI Channel 1 (just for this example... you can change this later at your preference) in the following manner:

    Press the < and > buttons to go into "edit mode"

    Press the "A" key (MIDI)

    Press the < or > key until the number "1" is displayed in the window

    Press the "Tuner" key (exit)

    You are now set up to receive on MIDI channel 1

    Now that you're set up, you can proceed with loading your library file in the following manner:

    -Double click the icon for the V-AMP DESIGN software to start the application

    -The unit will default to either the "configuration" window, or the presets window (spreadsheet style, with preset names listed in bank numbers and letters)

    -In the "configuration window", ensure that your V-AMP product was detected (you should see an icon for your product in the left-hand window). If the configuration window
    Is not displayed (e.g. the presets window is displayed instead), you can access the configuration window by clicking on WINDOWS at the top of the toolbar and then
    Clicking CONFIGURATION.

    -After you've highlighted your product icon on the left, click OK. The preset window should now be displayed, and your preset names should be automatically detected and displayed (if connected correctly).

    To load a TONE LIBRARY file into your V-AMP product:

    -Click on FILE

    -Click on OPEN LIBRARY... A pop-up menu should appear.

    -Browse and select the .vlb file you wish to import.

    -Click on OPEN.

    -The library will now open in the LIBRARIAN window.

    -In the left column of the Librarian window, click on the .vlb file you want to import onto your V-Amp 2 and drag it to the preset in the spreadsheet style presets window you wish to replace with your new TONE LIBRARY file (.vlb file)

    -A window will appear asking if you want to replace presets.

    -Click OK.

    The presets starting with the one you dragged to will now be replaced by those in the .vlb file. This is automatically saved on your V-Amp 2
    Chris Painter
    Specialist, Product Support Web
    MUSIC Group
    BEHRINGER

  3. #3
    i've got he same problem. i can't make the connection to my PC. THRU is off, the same channel is on both PC and VAMP2 ( no. 1). i've tryed to plug in MIDI IN with MIDI IN, MIDI in with MIDI OUT, and still nothing. can you give me more info on how to make it happen?

  4. #4
    Dear Cioata,

    Are you using Windows 8?

    Kind Regards,

  5. #5
    no. i run windows xp.

  6. #6
    Dear Ciotata,

    Make sure that you are connecting the MIDI OUT of the V-AMP to the MIDI IN of the interface and the MIDI OUT of the V-AMP to the MIDI in of the interface.

    To load a TONE LIBRARY file into your V-AMP product:

    -click on FILE

    -click on OPEN LIBRARY... A pop-up menu should appear.

    -browse and select the .vlb file you wish to import.

    -click on OPEN.

    -the library will now open in the LIBRARIAN window.

    -in the left column of the Librarian window, click on the .vlb file you want to import onto your V-Amp 2 and drag it to the preset in the spreadsheet style presets window you wish to replace with your new TONE LIBRARY file (.vlb file)

    -a window will appear asking if you want to replace presets.

    -click OK.

    The presets starting with the one you dragged to will now be replaced by those in the .vlb file. This is automatically saved on your V-Amp 2.



    To import and export presets do as follows:

    - Save all the settings in the library and export this as a sysex file.

    - Close the editor and then re-open

    - Select "import sys ex" - and locate the previously exported file

    - The software will prompt you to put the V-Amp into the MIDI edit menu (press both arrow keys, then "A")

    - Do this, and then confirm to import the sysex file - and voilà - 125 presets overwritten in one fell swoop.

    - Press "tuner" (exit) and disconnect the MIDI in

    now you can check to see if all the presets were indeed overwritten.


    Kind regards,

  7. #7
    this i know. but when i open the vamp editor and try to search for my device, comes the part with "midi thru, can't respond to scanning" dialog. thru is off, all the settings are good, but still no connection. so my problem is that my pc cannot comunicate with my vamp. can't get them to work together.

  8. #8
    Dear Cioata,

    What kind of MIDI interface are you using?



    All the best,

  9. #9
    i've got a normal MIDI-USB cable bought from a music store. paid around 20 Euro. and the cable work becouse it was tested on a keybord. the lights are on when i connect it to the vamp (when i use the DUMP the lights flash) and when i search for the vamp on my pc, the lights flash again. as for my pc, i don't have anything special for a midi output, just the onbord soundcard. all the options for midi output are ok. i've tried a diferent soundcard (genius sound marker) but still nothing. a few days ago, i've tried a different pc with win7 OS and an onbord soundcard but still nu result. i don't have any more ideas, so... anyway, thx for the quick answers

  10. #10
    Dear Cioata,

    If MIDI data does not seem to be transmitting or receiving, one possibility may be that the MIDI output has somehow inadvertently been changed from "MIDI OUT" to a "MIDI THRU". First I'll explain, then I'll tell you why this might be the case:

    MIDI OUT- transmits the MIDI data generated by the V-AMP2 to the receiving device (in your case, the computer)

    MIDI THRU- passes the MIDI data at the input of the device "through" to the output. In this mode, the V-AMP does NOT
    TRANSMIT IT'S OWN MIDI DATA.

    So, how do we check it? Go into "edit mode" by pressing the two arrow keys simultaneously. Then press the "A" key (also labeled "MIDI") to access the MIDI parameters. Press the "TAP" key until it is unlit (this puts the unit in MIDI OUT mode). If the TAP key LED is lit, then it is in MIDI THRU mode (see manual, page 6- block number 8 for future reference).

    Lastly, make sure you are connected with MIDI cables going both ways.

    Hope this helps!

    All the best,

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