Yes Steve, you should be able to use those channels for that purpose. The Compact, Producer, Rack and Core all have the same virtual functionality of the X32 console. It really is a nifty trick/feature.
Basically I can envision doing the method explained by Dave Rat. Assign various drum mics to a stereo subgroup, instruments to a subgroup, vocals to a subgroup. Turn off LR out for pretty much everything on 1-16. Then mix the subgroups to LR using 17-32 with light compression on each of those subgroups. That still leaves me all the options to route any of the direct channels or subgroups to P16 and/or various mix busses for monitor outs....and still haven't had to touch the matrix thing... Likewise can setup some DCA's as Dave suggested.
Anyone know if this creates any more latency by running back through the digital signal path again?
Yes, that Dave Rat setup sounds very intriguing. But the way I see it, it would eat up mixbusses and channels pretty quick. As long as they aren't needed for other tasks (monitor mixes, etc.), you should be able to do it. Regarding the question of latency, there was a thread awhile ago that discussed that, and the conclusion was that the end result was still less than 1 ms (can't remember the exact value), as long as the signal stays within the X32.
For one thing, so that I can use the subgroups for mixing monitor mixes on other mixbusses.
But also its a nice way to operate so that the group faders can be left on DCA's, the 1-16 faders are for adjusting each mic (ie, the fine tune mix), and 17-32 faders are used for the overall mix, to adjust the level of each subgroup there instead of on the mixbus itself......where the Dave Rat trick is hopefully automixing things more or less. Strictly speaking, his subgroup trick does not have to go back through 17-32, UNLESS you want to use those subgroups to feed monitor mixes or apply send FX per subgroup. But I just also like the mode of operation for the fader banks I mentioned above also.
Agree Paul it uses up mixbusses pretty quick. I like the idea of using 3 stereo subgroups: drums, instruments, vocals. That still leaves plenty of mix busses left for other tasks it seems to me.
Ok, I understand.
When my x32rack shows up I intend to use it for monitor duties. I'm using the dave rat technique at times with my x32, but I have an issue with too few monitor mixes
With the rack that won't be a problem anymore.
I'm really hoping that behringer is working on some integration solution for the x32 series. That would be so cool!
yea.. Our band will use the X32 for either/or. When we have to use house provided FOH, then we'll use the X32Rack as monitor/stage mixer. For smaller venues we'll run both FOH and mons through it. In our cases, the people using IEM's will probably use P16m's. A few wedges are still on stage, but there are plenty of mixbusses left for that.
Just curious Robert, how are you using all 16 mixbusses right now?
7 all channels faders (pushing into bus compressors)
8 all bus faders (level to main mix)
With 7&8 you control how hard or soft your mix is going to be. Pretty cool
11 monitor 1
12 monitor 2
13/14/15/16 fx-sends (can steal one for monitors if needed)
Last edited by Robert Lofgren; 09-30-2013 at 01:45 PM.