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Thread: x32 core and changing scenes?

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    Michael.Maeurer
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    Dear Nick,

    to select scenes on the Core without a remote app you will be able to use the SELECT knob on the X32 CORE surface. But you will also be able to change scenes with the XControl and the XiControl remote apps as you can do it with the X32.

    In regards of the W8 problem you may try it as Tim suggested with a crossover cable or alternatively do a quick test with a wireless router or switch/hub between the X32 and your remote computer.

  2. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael.Maeurer View Post
    Dear Nick,

    to select scenes on the Core without a remote app you will be able to use the SELECT knob on the X32 CORE surface. But you will also be able to change scenes with the XControl and the XiControl remote apps as you can do it with the X32.

    In regards of the W8 problem you may try it as Tim suggested with a crossover cable or alternatively do a quick test with a wireless router or switch/hub between the X32 and your remote computer.
    thanks Michael,
    I will give your suggestions a go - have not got round to trying xcontrol with a router yet - currently mainly use it as a means of displaying another screen - it was only when using it as a means to type in scene names that I came across the disconnect issue.
    Would still be keen to know if anyone else has this problem (I.e. to see if it really is a W8 issue)
    Still not sure what a crossover cable is will need to search it!(see edit postscript)
    Nick

    ....ah I see will see if I can get one to try out but in all other respects the connection between xcontrol and the x32 works fine!
    Last edited by Nick Davis; 04-22-2013 at 09:46 AM.

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    Hi Nick,

    A crossover cable simply switches pins 2 and 6 from one end of the cable to the other. But if a crossover cable is required, a standard cable would simply not work. It wouldn't give you the symptoms you are encountering with periodic disconnect. I'm wondering if you simply have a bad network cable, or bad end.

    Paul

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Vannatto View Post
    Hi Nick,

    A crossover cable simply switches pins 2 and 6 from one end of the cable to the other. But if a crossover cable is required, a standard cable would simply not work. It wouldn't give you the symptoms you are encountering with periodic disconnect. I'm wondering if you simply have a bad network cable, or bad end.

    Paul
    Hi Paul,
    Yep - but the periodic disconnection is only when I use the xcontrol to save a scene- everything else including scene load works fine. Also using windows 7 the scene save works fine (different laptop though). So I am not sure if the cable but will do a swap out.
    I think I really need someone with windows 8 to comment whether or not they have the same issue. Does someone at behringer have access to a windows 8 pc to try this ?
    I am willing to accept it is a problem with my setup but if a sw glitch it would be worthwhile you knowing,
    nick
    Last edited by Nick Davis; 04-22-2013 at 09:14 PM.

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Davis View Post
    Interesting! -( haven't heard of win7 ultimate will look it up). So possibly a compatibility problem which is not solved by setting the xcontrol program to run in compatibility mode - wonder what xcontrol is doing when try to save a scene - perhaps a lot of traffic ( but would this be the case if just saving to the xcontrol library - which does not reflect the changes on the console!)

    Wonder if there is a windows expert who can shed some light on this - it is just a bit irritating!

    Nick
    I guess that I can snoop the network traffic and see if it breaks at the same spot every time.

    I never bothered to investigate at the time since no one else had this problem when I called for attention and since it was isolated to a single computer...

    Since the program doesn't crash it seems to be network related on that specific computer. Also, if I leave that computer on over night connected to my x32 I will need to re-connect the next day since it will have dropped the connection.

    In my case the x32 and computer is connected to a network switch and not via a direct link.

  6. #16
    Michael.Maeurer
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    Dear all,

    the network disconnect could be also due to activated power saving options of the network card in the device manager.

  7. #17
    Evan Hooton
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    Hello Nick,

    in the situation of connecting a laptop directly to the X32, you do not need a Crossover Ethernet cable to connect directly to the X32 and a laptop. The X32 Ethernet port is a MDIX (Medium Dependent Interface Crossover) hub which means that you do not need an external hub to perform the crossover function.

    Evan Hooton
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  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Michael.Maeurer View Post
    Dear all,

    the network disconnect could be also due to activated power saving options of the network card in the device manager.
    In my case the offending computer is a desktop model and not a laptop. No power optimizations are running/configured.

  9. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Lofgren View Post
    I guess that I can snoop the network traffic and see if it breaks at the same spot every time.

    I never bothered to investigate at the time since no one else had this problem when I called for attention and since it was isolated to a single computer...

    Since the program doesn't crash it seems to be network related on that specific computer. Also, if I leave that computer on over night connected to my x32 I will need to re-connect the next day since it will have dropped the connection.

    In my case the x32 and computer is connected to a network switch and not via a direct link.
    Hi Robert,
    What sw do you use to snoop the network traffic?
    Nick

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Davis View Post
    Hi Robert,
    What sw do you use to snoop the network traffic?
    Nick
    I use wireshark. It's free and work great...

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