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    Cool X32 Rack

    Does anyone know if the scenes in the X32 will be portable to the X32 Rack when it becomes available? I currently own an X32 and I am going to be purchasing the X32 rack for jobs where space is a premium. I still prefer to have a work surface, but I can get along with the iPad interface with no problems. I am going to add a stage box so that I will have a full 32 channels...so can we move scenes between the two?

    If anyone finds out or knows please respond.

    Bill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Schnake View Post
    Does anyone know if the scenes in the X32 will be portable to the X32 Rack when it becomes available? I currently own an X32 and I am going to be purchasing the X32 rack for jobs where space is a premium. I still prefer to have a work surface, but I can get along with the iPad interface with no problems. I am going to add a stage box so that I will have a full 32 channels...so can we move scenes between the two?

    If anyone finds out or knows please respond.

    Bill
    Hi Bill,
    Thank you for your interest in the X32 RACK!
    Since all units are running the same firmware and DSP, you can transfer show files between them.
    At the NAMM show this year we copied the scene file from the X32 to all of the new models on the show floor, including the X32 RACK.

    Best,
    John DiNicola
    Senior Specialist, Product Support
    MUSIC Group
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    Thanks for the reply John DiNicola...now hurry up and get me one of those bad boys.

    Thanks
    Bill
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    anyone have any idea when these are going to ship? I need one yesterday

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    Cool

    Steve I spoke to Chase on the phone yesterday and he assured me that you can have yours right after I get mine. I am goin to replace a Yamaha 01v96 2 with one as soon as I can get my hands on one. I love my X32 that has virtually replaced my Yamaha LS9/32.

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    Hi Bill,

    I have heard the LS9 and thought it was a pretty decent mixer (I normally mix on my MixWiz).

    What about the X32 has you leaving your LS9 at home if you don't mind me asking?

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    Hi Scott. We have been using the LS9 for the past 4 plus years mainly for monitors. It is rider friendly for the most part and most of the acts we have worked with have a USB Key built for the board. The reason that we are moving on and using the Behringer X32 is sound. The X32 has a warmer sound and the graphic eqs aren't as harsh as the graphic eqs in the LS9. We just did an 11 day run of a show for over 9,000 people and had many compliments on how 'natural' the mix sounded. This was for a musical.

    We are also finding that the X32 is showing up on more and more riders as a replacement to the LS9 as a monitor desk. We 35 - 40 shows a year with national touring artist out of Nashville. Most of them seem to be embracing the X32 as a monitor console. It is fair to say that some of them still require a M7CL or a SC48, but for the ones who are/have been requesting the LS9 all of them have taken the X32 in its place for this summer.

    Hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions.

    Bill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Schnake View Post
    Hi Scott. We have been using the LS9 for the past 4 plus years mainly for monitors. It is rider friendly for the most part and most of the acts we have worked with have a USB Key built for the board. The reason that we are moving on and using the Behringer X32 is sound. The X32 has a warmer sound and the graphic eqs aren't as harsh as the graphic eqs in the LS9. We just did an 11 day run of a show for over 9,000 people and had many compliments on how 'natural' the mix sounded. This was for a musical.

    We are also finding that the X32 is showing up on more and more riders as a replacement to the LS9 as a monitor desk. We 35 - 40 shows a year with national touring artist out of Nashville. Most of them seem to be embracing the X32 as a monitor console. It is fair to say that some of them still require a M7CL or a SC48, but for the ones who are/have been requesting the LS9 all of them have taken the X32 in its place for this summer.

    Hope this helps and let me know if you have any other questions.

    Bill
    Thanks Bill.

    I never thought I would hear a sound pro like yourself say that a Behringer mixer had better sound than an LS9. I am also surprised to hear that the X32 is becoming acceptable on riders in such a short time.

    How do you find the workflow on the X32 compared to the LS9? I have played with both and found them both fairly complex compared to something like the StudioLive 16.4.2 (which flows alot like the new A&H Qu16 and SoundCraft Expression Si).

    I am waiting patiently for the X32 Performer to replace my venerable hard working MixWiz. I have heard nothing but great things about this mixer and am excited and eager to get one of my own

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    Hi Scott, No one is more surprised than me. Back in the late 90s early 2000s we had good luck with the Composers from Behringer, but everything else we bought from them didn't seem to work well or last. As we got larger jobs we switched to dbx 160, dbx 166 etc and all of our Beheringer stuff went away. My son-in-law, who works for me, convinced me to buy the X32...as I always say 'he is much smarter than I'. Not surprisingly, he was right once again.

    About the workflow. I cut my digital teeth on the Yamaha 01v when it first came out. At that time I can say I have never been more frustrated by a piece of equipment. The LS9 workflow is the same as the 01v workflow so when we bought our first LS9 if was easy to use since I had no change. The main thing that I missed on the LS9 is the ability to have VCA/DCAs. When you spend most of your time on a large analog board or a M7CL not having VCA/DCAs is hard to work around. I do really like the way that the channel information on the Yamaha is stored and recalled. In addition to having the channel strip that I can store you can also save just the EQ and pull it back into any patch or just the comp and pull it into any patch. You can do this with the Behringer, but you do it by excluding the parts of the channel strip that you don't want to use. Since we use Avid and Yamaha and both of them work the other way, it is what I am use to. The other thing that confused me when I started was the use of the work 'Aux', which Behringer is using correctly. I came from an analog back ground where the Aux was an output that feed either effects or monitors. We never used aux returns so I only think in terms of output. So in my workflow initially, on the Behrnger, I wanted to setup monitor mix one, my original thought was send everything I wanted to aux 1 and then assign the aux to whatever physical output I wanted. Finally, I got it send it to 'Buss Master 1' and then route it to the physical output. Once I had this down everything else was easy as could be. Matrix's seem a little easier to use on the X32 than the LS9. Everyone that I have talked to that owns both boards agree that the Head Amps on the X32 are clearer and that the EQs are much better.

    My wish list for the X32 is a little bit better granularity on the comp and gate ratios. Being a former dbx guy that is what I am use to.

    Both boards are good in their space. Yamaha is going to have a problem selling a board for 3 to 4 times the amount of a competitor that offers the same performance plus/minus, with the exception of adding the additional 32 preamp inputs. In my opinion, Behringer wins this one hands down over the LS9.

    Hope this helps and sorry about the rambling.

    Bill
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    I like the LS9, but these days I cannot justify it when compared to the cost/features of the X32 and the GLD. When the X64 comes out (please!), it will be time to sell off the LS9 - if it will be at all possible to get decent money for it.

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